Interviews
Marcus Vinicius De Luccia
By Marcelo Alonso
"I think we should eliminate the classic blows that we used to see at Pride. Some people think we are copying Ultimate’s rules, but I don’t think that way"

Black belt and owner of Beverly Hills Jiu-Jitsu team, Marcus Vinicius de Luccia did a course at Nevada Athletic Commission and will participate at the Brazilian commission created by Wallid Ismail. In exclusive interview to TATAME, Marcus told about the MMA promoter work at Brazil, the rules that will be adopted here and about opening a team at USA. Check below the complete interview with Marcus Vinicius.

What’s the importance of the MMA Athletic Commission to the development of the sport in Brazil?

Wallid’s idea was to do a job looking at the athletic commission of Nevada and California. I had had this idea before, I always fought for the Vale-Tudo having only one rule on the whole world, but the events have others ideas. We’ll try to do it at Brazil, call all event promoters and try to make it real and become the Brazilian MMA more professional.

Will you get closer to UFC’s or Pride’s rules?

Our examples are the events under California’s and Nevada’s commission. With doping, weight categories, difference in fights of preliminary or belt fights, round difference. Pride’s rules shocks people more, it’s more complicated, otherwise we like more to see the fight without rules, but the crowd, in general, doesn’t like it. Otherwise, they allow using the elbow, what hurt a lot and make the athlete bleed a lot and sometimes get him out of the fight. We can eliminate the elbow too, like we did at Jungle Fight.

Brazilian’s reality is different from American’s... What would you do different from theirs commission?

In my opinion, we’ll have to discuss it yet, I think we should eliminate the classic blows that we used to see at Pride. Some people think we are copying Ultimate’s rules, but I don’t think that way. So, we could do rules like American way, but without the elbow.

How are the events? What would you do as Wallid Ismail’s partner?

Wallid stopped a little with Jungle Fight, that was his biggest event, the MMA World League that has becoming the World Wide way, in other words, that’s going to be showed at the whole world. He settled down some partnerships in Brazil and United States and will do some professional and amateur events, to give opportunity to new talents.

In last few years, a lot of big athletes went from Brazil to United States, especially Las Vegas... How do you see this exodus?

Beverly Hills Jiu-Jitsu is better than never. Last year we had excellent results at big championships as Pan-American, World Cup, American Championship, US Open, Pan No-Gi, World Cup No-Gi, at all the important championships we were great. We had new good athletes coming last year, an athlete from Brazilian Top Team, a black belt from Alliance that make the team stronger. This year I started with Ratinho, Otavio Couto, from Akxe that I know from years, that actually started with the white-belt with me before knowing Jacaré and getting the black-belt with him at Alliance, and now we meet again at tatamis ready to work together.

You had partnership with Chute Boxe and received some teachers from there to do Wrestling work and now stopped... How is the Vale Tudo part from your team?

I tried to keep all different styles inside my gym, I believe it’s important to get ready to learn everything. Wrestling is good for Jiu-Jitsu, to personal defence, Muay Thai too. So, I always wanted to keep a gym like it was originally, as all arts inside the gym.. I had difficulties with Muay Thai, because all good teachers I had had too many work and couldn’t teach too much, so I invited Chute Boxe and they sent me a guy that teached here for a year, but our philosophy wasn’t the same of his and it didn’t work, but it’s past. I have a new Boxing teacher, that’s part of the team and I’m with an excellent Wrestling teacher, that does the Jiu-Jitsu and Grappling part too. I got now a Krav-Maga teacher to personal defense that came from Special Force. It’s better than never.

You were one of the first Brazilian coaches to teach at United States... What’s the advice you give to the people from today that are trying this way too?

To be great at United States, you need to do the right thing, one step in his time. The first thing you need to do is the location, going somewhere already has a lot of gyms is not good, it won’t work. Do a map and see where the big gyms are, so go the unexplored locations. Try to be legal at America, get a Green Card, because being illegal it’s lot good and uncomfortable. America is a good place to work, if you wanna easy life you won’t be great there.

You went to America with nothing and paid from your pocket the builds, created a gym... Tell us this story...

When I went to America for the first time my family didn’t got the visa, and my life in America wouldn’t be this easy without my family. I hadn’t this intention to stay there alone, so I came back for two years and worked here. I got the visa for my family and went to America and everybody worked at my gym, two years later the owner decided to sell it and I sold everything I had to buy it. People think that only because you’re going to America you’ll be rich because you receive in dollar, but you pay in dollar, rent, everything is very expensive, but it’s good. It’s a lot of work, and it’s just starting.




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